No kidding! The topo map, to one that can read them, just says "YOU BETTER BE A GOL'DARN MOUNTAIN GOAT!" I don't think I'd enjoy that trail. Remind me, if I ever get the chance, to tell you about Vivian Creek up San Gorgonio down here.....

Also, if I ever have the chance to get up to your area, I demand you take me to these places!