summer_jackel: (Furries for Obama)
[personal profile] summer_jackel
FYI for those of you not in CA: Measure 8 is the bit of evilness on the ballot now that would nullify same-sex marriages and prevent future ones in our beautiful state. I'm tucked away in a happy little liberal oasis and so I have been spared seeing the vomit-worthy 'Yes on 8' signs anywhere near my home until today. *

I'm trying to decide whether stealing all of these signs I can find and burning them is immature and beneath me or whether I should let Pryderi pee all over them first.

Phone-banking against it would probably be more useful, and I'll more than likely start doing so later this week. I hate politics, I loathe initiating conversation with strangers. I have a serious telephone aversion. I'm going to do it anyhow. Someone ought to suffer for this.

While we're on politics, I just watched a bit of last night's debate (yawn) and was very impressed...in the most unfavorable possible way...by his scowling and grimacing-faces during Obama's speechifying. To say nothing of his even worse behavior previously. [livejournal.com profile] starchy Does a better job than I would of explaining why I'm pissed on a level that goes beyond my personal liberal politics about what's passing for a conservative worthy of respect these days, and why I think you all should be too. When a serious candidate for office behaves like a surly and ill behaved fifth grader, I become concerned. Anger tends to find its source in fear or pain, after all.


* My personal stance on marriage, that it's a kind of distasteful and outmoded legal/social concept, hasn't changed. The probability of me ever ending up in a legal marriage is incredibly slim. Who knows, though, maybe if the right girl was wanting it. Why I care about this issue nonetheless ought to be pretty obvious).

Date: 2008-10-17 07:30 am (UTC)
joreth: (Dobert Demons of Stupidity)
From: [personal profile] joreth
Well, I, at least, understand that you're simply venting by entertaining thoughts of vandalism. The thought of such is theraputic even while the act would be wrong for so many reasons of which you are well aware.

And I'm also totally against the marriage contract entirely and I wish we could have a completely overhaul of the system that eradicated marriages, but allowed for contracts (like business contracts) to merge assets, gain insurance benefits, solidify inheritance rights, etc. But...

1) I know that won't happen and
2) as long as does marriage exist, everyone who fits the criteria for being legal to enter into contracts should be allowed to get married. Period.

The only reason to prevent any class of person from any category of contract is because you think they're not really people, they're sub-human, or otherwise "not worthy".

As [livejournal.com profile] zen_shooter says, when you can show me that gay marriage causes cancer, or somehow infringes upon the rights of people, then I'll see a reason to be against it. Until then, big freakin' deal. I don't care if my next door neighbors are married, why should I care if a gay couple is married?

Measure 8 is horrid, and we have Amendment 2 over here, so I'm totally with you on the need to vomit and destroy property sentiments!

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